Friday, March 21, 2008
Burt Lancaster and Jimmy Wales
Doesn't Jimmy Wales remind you of Burt Lancaster? For those of you who don't quite get the allusion, I suggest you rent the film Elmer Gantry (1960) this weekend. It won Academy Awards for Best Actor (Lancaster) and Best Supporting Actress (Shirley Jones as Lulu Baines--I wonder who she is in the WMF saga). Ironically, it also won Best Adapted Screenplay, since that is what Wikipedia is all about--taking information from other sources, in this case a Sinclair Lewis novel, and recasting it in a new medium. So watch the film and think about this question: Doesn't Jimmy Wales remind you of Burt Lancaster?
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Nah, he reminds me more of Generic Evil Mob Boss Archetype #7A.
@Messedrocker
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That's probably the weakest allusion I've ever heard. Every year some film is awarded 'Best Adapted Screenplay', so why is this film particularly relevant?! Also, why 'ironically'?! I don't see anything ironic in the post. If this is Wales' favourite film, then I guess you could make a weak case for both the allusion and irony, but you don't say that this is the case.
Didn't Shirley Jones play a prostitute who was raped in that movie? I'm assuming this isn't a direct comparison to anyone involved in this whole drama.
I am not entirely sure that Danny has actually read "Elmer Gantry."
Marsden's comment on Jimbo's talk page today:
Entering the Wikimatrix (aka Jimboworld)
As anyone who has ever cared about Jimbo here knows, the only way to have any sort of rational or caring discussion with him is in the Wikimatrix here. Alright, fine. Game on, sweetheart. Newsflash: Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia; it is a cult. I wouldn't even be included in a real encyclopedia. I want the Wikipedia entry about me deleted. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to accept. This is not a publishing company, nor is it some kind of altruistic venture for the greater good of humanity. Wikipedia is nothing more than the biggest and most prolific defamation machine that the world has ever known, run by people with varying degrees of personality disorders. You couldn't have cared less about my Wikipedia entry until we started sleeping together, Jimmy. At that point, it was nicely cleaned up and taken care of through your proxies here on the site, as per your instructions (and it's not the first time an article has been cleaned up through a proxy, as per your orders...this kind of stuff, contrary to popular belief, doesn't just happen "magically" here on Wikipedia). Now that we're not sleeping together and since you so publicly broke up with my here on this website, the page about me has turned into a complete free-for-all. Are you aware, Jimmy, that "NPOV" (aka "Neutral Point Of View") is actually an oxymoron? By its very nature, a "point of view" cannot be "neutral". Communism has failed everywhere it has been tried, Jimmy, and Wikipedia is no exception. As for you trying to make it seem as though your invisible hand isn't involved in any of this, perhaps it's wise for people to remember that the greatest feat the devil ever pulled off was convincing people that he doesn't exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RachelMarsden (talk • contribs) 14:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for comparing Jimmy to the Birdman of Alcatraz, Danny. Your penal innuendo is duly noted and your disgruntled status has been heightened.
Wiki defender, first off, what in the fuck gives with your photo? If you don't have the balls to reveal your true identity to Danny while lambasting him, you certainly don't have the stones to steal "The Scream."
And yes yes yes, I'm an anonymous poster, but you're the one with the problems here, not me.
@ anonymous
"Wiki defender" is a parody of those who irrationally defend Wikipedia's community.
that wikidefender site is some hilarious shit. lol!
look, it's call-in Jimbo Radio at 3pm today
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/transparency/2008/03/24/WIkipedia-Founder-Jimmy-Wales
Appears like you have been awarded the "Google Death Penalty".
anirudh: Your Google-Fu must be weak. Try typing in All's Wool that Ends Wool.
This blog pops right up....some death penalty.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all%27s+wool+that+ends+wool%22&btnG=Google+Search
Where?
Do you suppose that all the attacks on Jimmy Wales and Wikipedia were responsible for the Sloan Foundation's giving three million dollars this week to Wikimedia Foundation?
Nice spin. That would be ONE million a year. Not three.
We've all known that Erik has been working on Sloan for a long long time, predating all this. Old news. Nice try though. :)
Sue Gardner's new massive government style bureaucracy should eat through a million a year in no time. :)
Ah, one million dollars a year for three years is, yes, three million dollars. But don't trust me -- use your calculator. Also, probably not smart to confuse the encyclopedia of life grant with the brand-new three-year grant. But numbers were never your gift.
Sloan Foundation to Give Wikipedia $3M
By BRIAN BERGSTEIN – 1 hour ago
The nonprofit group behind Wikipedia, the mammoth Internet encyclopedia
built by volunteers, is getting its largest donation ever — $3 million
from the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.
The award, to come in $1 million installments over each of the next
three years, will help the Wikimedia Foundation become more financially
secure as it hires more staff and seeks to improve the quality and reach
of Wikipedia content, foundation leaders said.
"We think it will pave the way towards more donations as it is a signal
that a major foundation sees good in what we are doing," said Jimmy
Wales, the project's leader and a board member of the Wikimedia
Foundation. "And it should take away a lot of the questions people have
had about whether we will need advertising to survive."
Founded in 2001, Wikipedia is now the seventh-most popular Web site in
the U.S., according to comScore Inc. More than half the Wikimedia
Foundation's $4.6 million budget covers the servers and Internet
bandwidth to handle all that traffic. It also supports Wikipedias in
dozens of other languages and affiliated free projects such as
dictionaries and news sites.
The San Francisco-based Wikimedia Foundation said it would use the Sloan
grant for software enhancements, including one that make it easier for
Wikipedia editors to grade article quality. Wikimedia leaders also
envision doing more outreach to new contributors and creating
educational content for people without computers.
Doron Weber, a Sloan Foundation representative, said in a statement that
Wikipedia "represents a quantum leap" in the collection and organization
of knowledge.
Relying largely on small, individual donations, The Wikimedia Foundation
saw cash contributions jump to $2.2 million last year from $1.3 million
in the prior year. But foundation leaders have been looking for sturdier
mechanisms of support to ensure the group's long-term survival. It does
not have an endowment fund.
The group also recently lined up $1 million in gifts from anonymous
sources. Those donors were introduced to the group by Roger McNamee, a
prominent venture capitalist who himself has given at least $300,000,
which raised questions about whether investors might try to capitalize
on Wikipedia's brand name in a for-profit side business. Wales has said
no such venture is planned.
Wales must be seething that there's now a new God-king in town. Name's Sloan. Too bad Jimbo. Ha ha. He has now officially lost all control. :)
@anonymous 6:00PM
Ohhhh don't count the devil out so soon - he's stolen many a man's soul from grace, after all....
I'm willing to extend the devil some sympathy, some courtesy and some taste (per Giano's Better the devil we know argument or at least until I learn to play the devil's game:). But this does cut to core of the matter; money. The Sloan grant is a huge coup for Erik, who now shows he can one-up the devil at his own game.
Yes, true. Huge blow for Wales. Major coup for Erik. If anything, this proves the foundation really has no use for Wales anymore.
Jimmy Wales as Elmer Gantry?
He's more like Elmer Fudd Gantry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMt8dlmhdxY
"It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong; I am not a big man!" - Elmer Fudd Gantry (aka Fletch)
I'm not sure why any of this is a huge coup for erik; the coup was when he got into the office.
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