Saturday, March 15, 2008

Florence answers

This morning I woke up to an email from Florence (cc'ed to Kat, Frieda, Michael Snow, and Jan-Bart from the Board, and to Jay Walsh, Director of Communications). The email said the following:

Hello Danny,

I just listened to your interview to Wikipedia Weekly, and noted that in that interview, you accuse the chair of the board (that would be me) of wrong-doings. As the interviewer noted, that's a very strong statement. You also add that the board was at that time aware that Brad and the chair were guilty of wrong-doings.
You note as an example in your interview that one of the wrong-doings of Brad was to simply not show up at work. However, you did not give any example of my own wrong-doings. Given that accusing someone of wrong-doings is a very strong statement, I would like you to clarify to the current board (some members were actually board members at that time) which are the wrong-doings you are accusing me of.
I could also understand that in the fire of an interview, words went beyond your thoughts. If it is the case, I'll be happy if you could publicly clarify what you exactly mean.

Thank you.

Florence

Since I have been asked to "publicly clarify," I will do so here.
1. In that interview my intention regarding Brad and the Chair of the Board was to Brad and Jimmy. Florence only became Chair in November 2006, and any accusations in previous posts refer to the period before that.
2. That said, in my Board election campaign, I raised various concerns regarding Florence. While I still hold by these and some other concerns which I will not bring up at this point, I do not believe that Florence acted out of malice. Rather, she acted out of unfamiliarity with the laws governing a 501 (c) 3 not-for-profit in the United States. Regardless, I continue to maintain that of all the people involved in this emerging story, Florence has consistently acted in what she believes to be the interest of the Foundation and its ideals.
3. I note that she has not dismissed my claims regarding Jimmy and Brad. In fact, from her email, she seems to be verifying my claims about Brad, albeit very cautiously.
4. I also note that her email to me failed to include Jimmy, Sue, Erik, or Domas in the cc.
5. Based on this email and on previous correspondence, I believe that Florence understands that what I said in previous posts was accurate. To avoid speculation, I will give an example of one such correspondence, dated March 6

Florence,
I am giving it all to you on a silver platter. (Sentence removed to avoid implicating others.) If you answer the questions honestly, Jimmy, Erik, and Sue are discredited. You come out the good guy. I think that is a far better situation than having them go after you next.

Danny

Florence responded as follows:

I do not think I can... At least, this evening, I do not think I can.

I had a question about the dinner. I have a vague memory that there were 4 people at that dinner. Do you remember who it was ?

Ant

I do not know why Florence chose not to answer my three questions below, but I continue to assume in the best of faith that she wants to. I do not know what, or who, is hindering her, but I repeat my earlier statement: The truth shall set you free.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

'The truth shall set you free.'

I'd add another age-old saying: The truth will out.

Florence: the truth always - repeat, always - comes out eventually. Please don't think that the community will have any sympathy, or respect, for you if you remain silent now, and then, when the truth does come-out via others, you try to argue that you thought silence was in the best interests of the foundation. As chair of the foundation board, your first, and only, obligation, is to protect the interests of the foundation as a whole, not any individuals in it, whoever they may be. If there has been wrongdoing, then the community has a right to know about it, and it would be better that this boil was lanced now so that lessons can be learned and we can move-on. Cover-ups never succeed in avoiding damage, and their failure only causes further damage - damage both to trust between the community and the management, and to the public face of the foundation. Lance the boil now, otherwise your future as a respected member of the community will be severely, and permanently, damaged.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous poster above - great comment.

I'll add by saying this - for thousands of years charlatans of various sorts have been using "good will" and charity as a ruse to fool people, and cover their own extreme greed, manipulativeness, and lust for power. I hope that this blog unmasks the greatest trick ever pulled on the internet - Wikipedia. It's an extremely ugly environment run by people concerned only with their own personal agenda. I hope this blog results in a class action lawsuit against Wikipedia from all those who've donated over the years who've had their money grossly misspent, and I hope it means that I can finally make a Google search without having to see this blight on the internet appear in every search result.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Florence is going to go down with the ship. This stuff with Jimbo Wales isn't over. Not by a long shot. Everyone just needs a little break. This is all just beginning.

Moulton said...

In an organization where allegiance is valued more highly than personal integrity, there is often the question of where to vest one's allegiance.

I think Danny is right that allegiance is owed to the highest principles of the organization, and not to any fallible individual who may stray the course.

Anonymous said...

Moulton - you're right on the mark.

And to add to this thought, here's what sucks the most. Wikipedia, Jimbeau Wales, and others, all use the slimiest methods possible of aggrandizing their own personal ambitions by gaining people's trust through their supposed charitable intentions. Jim and Tammy Fay Bakker , faith healers, and Jimbeau are all made of the same hypocritical fabric.

Anonymous said...

@anonymous 11:09AM

Your wish is answered! If you use Firefox, the CustomizeGoogle extension will let you filter WP (or any other site) out of your search results. See http://www.customizegoogle.com/

another anonymous said...

One wonders if people will stop sending Danny emails in confidence given the number that are appearing here.

All's Wool that Ends Wool said...

Perhaps the problem is that everything is said in confidence, that everything is secret, and everything is good as long as the plebs don't find out. For a project that prides itself on transparency, there sure is a lot of secrecy.

Chad H. said...

Florence,

The first anonymous post here is dead on the money. You know things that need to be said. It is not only your moral duty as a decent community member, but your legal responsibility as board chair.

If you cannot do this, we were wrong in electing you to the board.

Anonymous said...

re customizegoogle: The problem is not filtering WP out (which on its own wouldn't be so annoying) but filtering out the tens of thousands of mirror sites, with new ones cropping up every day.

Anonymous said...

If THIS is true, Florence, then BOTH of these two need to go.

http://valleywag.com/368539/did-jimmy-wales-and-wikipedia-boss-make-out-in-amsterdam

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