Lar, it may surprise you but I agree with you more than you imagine. I believe that providing knowledge is the answer, but, as I posted—rather cynically, I might add—in my post, it is best to first find out what kind of knowledge people need and then respond by providing that. Unfortunately, when all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail; when all you have is a wiki, then everything looks like a laptop.
For example, I would be completely and fully in support of wiki-produced agricultural manuals that promote sustainable agricultural techniques for the various climates and geographical conditions of
Yes, more than just a wiki is needed. This demands expertise, professionalism, people intimately familiar (on the ground?) with local conditions, etc. While you may have this in French, it would be most helpful in Lingala, Kikongo, and Tshiluba; the first two have wikis with some 1500 articles between them, while Tshiluba does not have a wiki yet. Then it must be provided to the people, farmers, who need it most, either in print format (in a country with a relatively high 67 percent literacy rate, mostly in urban centers, but only 55 percent of male children and 49 percent of female children actually attending primary schools), or electronic format (phones per 100 people = 5; internet use per 100 = 0). For more information, see UNICEF's country profile.
So, I repeat the question I asked in my last post: While helping developing nations is an admirable goal, has anyone at the WMF given any real thought to the challenges involved in this? Statements about cows, mud, and Wikipedia may make some Westerners feels good about themselves, but they fail to confront the genuine challenges that other, more established and experienced aid groups face every single day. To many, myself included, they are simply condescending and trite.
For examples of some of these challenges, see Doctors without Borders, Engineers without Borders, and Teachers without Borders.
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You mean throwing laptops and wikis off a plane into the savannas, jungles, mountains and deserts of Africa won't end poverty?
Who knew?
Danny, you need to ease up on these a bit. Currently, you are so lambasting the Wikimedia Foundation with your laser-focused logic and information, I am almost starting to (heaven forfend!) have pity on those Third World ambassadors in their swanky San Francisco office loft. They really don't stand a chance against you. Perhaps you could type with just one finger?
You make a fair point why Wikipedia isn't going to stop all the problems in Africa, but I'm still not quite getting what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that Wikipedia sucks because it doesn't solve all of the third world country's problems? Or that the WMF doesn't even try to solve them?
I think that he's saying that WMF sucks because they "pretend" to solve the World's problem when actually all they do is to take care of expenses for the people on the gravy train...
"Lar, it may surprise you but I agree with you more than you imagine."
Thanks for that. I actually suspected as much. But your point that it's not just ANY knowledge that is needed, but high quality, accurate, germane knowledge in the native language that is needed is extremely valid.
How to get that efficiently from a volunteer project is not clear, especially if, as you suggest in a later post, there is a big problem with not integrating experts well, or even driving them away.
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