Sunday, May 18, 2008

The Truth Is Out There

So many people have called Jimmy out for lying, from Board and Staff, to other Internet personalities, like Larry Sanger and Jason Calacanis. Jimmy has lied to the community about his role in Wikipedia, and he has lied to his wife about his various affairs. You see, in Jimmyland, the motto is, "Say whatever you need to get a fuck; say whatever you need to not get fucked." So when the Board can't find Jimmy in Rotterdam because he had gone whoring in Amsterdam, a Jimmy response like "I didn't get your calls" is absolutely legitimate to him. And when Jimmy promises his wife that he will no longer fool around with Elisabeth Bauer, he means in Florida, and not in Tunisia, and in Jimmy-speak it is not even a lie.
And when Jimmy responds on Foundation-l "I did not de-sysop Erik, ever. To the contrary, actually," he means, "I simply told Danny to do it," and he absolves himself of all responsibility. After all, he believes the people in the know will likely be quiet. So, that means the IRC channel on where it was discussed (Allison Wheeler, Amgine, Kelly Martin, James Forrester) will be quiet. And the people in the office (Brad Patrick, Terry Foote, Michael Davis, Monica Guerrero) will be quiet. And the people he had dinner with that night (Kat Walsh, Greg Maxwell) will be quiet. And if you don't get caught, in Jimmy's world, you can say whatever you like.
So, Jimmy, since you said: "It is bound to come to a head with Erik at some point or another. It may as well be now," followed by instructions to ban him, it is rather disingenuous to say otherwise now. In fact, even Erik understood it, when the situation was explained to him in Boston. Actually, Andrew Lih has pictures of the exact moment when he was told what really happened. So, for the record, here is when Erik was told what really happened. And here is when it was confirmed.

(For background to the incident, please see here.)




7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Who invented the concept of a freely-licensed encyclopedia ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUpedia

Anonymous said...

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-May/043106.html

"This is true, but your initial reaction was in favor of taking swift
preventive action. ....." - Kat Walsh

Anonymous said...

Hmm, but in your previous blog post about this (http://allswool.blogspot.com/2008/02/there-has-been-lot-of-controversy-about.html) you wrote:
"9. I was instructed by Brad to "Nuke him." This was then approved by
Jimbo and done. Jimbo's response was that it was bound to come to a
head at some point with Erik."
While in this blog post you wrote:
"So, Jimmy, since you said: "It is bound to come to a head with Erik at some point or another. It may as well be now," followed by instructions to ban him"

Now, both statements can't be true. You were either instructed by Brad to "nuke him", and Jimbo then confirmed the action, or you were instructed by Jimbo to ban him.
Which version is true?
My guess is that the earlier version is true, considering that you wrote that email back then just one day after the incident. And the way I'm reading it, Jimbo's statement came after the ban, so he couldn't have possibly told you to ban Erik, since he was already banned then. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, of course!)

Of course, either way Jimbo doesn't look good here, since he implied in his mail that he was against the desysopping, when in fact he was in favor of it back then.

Anonymous said...

"Of course, either way Jimbo doesn't look good here, since he implied in his mail that he was against the desysopping, when in fact he was in favor of it back then."

Whenever Jimbo "implies" anything but doesn't come right out and explicitly say it, he's lying.

Anonymous said...

Whenever Jimbo "implies" anything but doesn't come right out and explicitly say it, he's lying.

Whenever he opens his mouth, he's lying.

RDH(Ghost In The Machine) said...

Good post Danny.
But you know what the world really wants to read more about is the whole "Nigger Air" vs "Ghetto Air" thing you mentioned over on the Wag.
Would you care to elaborate?

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